10 Kinds Of Women

Women are meant to be valued, loved and appreciated just look at Jesus he is a lifter of women, while many religion’s tear them down and think of them as only the property of the man even in some christian churches they forbid them to be in the ministry or preach holding them down to ancient barbaric cultures that are not relevant either to life or to freedom.

10 Kinds of Women

1—The Soccer Mom: She is driven, she is typically into material things and into sports even if she doesn’t understand them, she likes the social life but rarely has the time for it, she raises kids works on a job in some cases has very little time for herself or spouse.

The problem is she has been programmed to think a certain way from her childhood through the school, the media, movies and her favorite programs on TV she can either be sweet and helpful or she can be selfish discontented and hard to get along with.

 2—Women who seek to gain power over others by seduction, sex appeal and deception, they are called by some gold diggers they also find that it is easy to compromise values for money because they lack self motivation and personal responsibility they have placed outward vanity over true character.

3— Those who never grow up they are called by some cougars older women who seeks the younger man because it helps them feel more youthful and to have fun sexually or just younger companionship’s that still have some life, this many times is because they have had their emotional growth stunted either by sexual physical or mental abuse either from a previous spouse, parent or both.

4— The party girl she is tough she party’s hard works hard has a lot of good common sense except in some cases when it come to sex with the wrong ones or when she has too much to drink and makes bad decisions she love her country can be opinionated and would fight for what is right, most can’t stand religion they love their own they know God loves them sometimes they will be called a redneck party girl but not always the case.

5—Career minded independent woman she is too busy to have a family unless they are also independent she will spends hours in the office she micro manages relationships she needs to be in control she is performance driven, would love to settle down and have an intimate relationship but has trouble finding one that really works because her career is first.

6—The one who is co-dependent,  jealous, clingy, she can easily become a nag especially when she feels anxious or insecure about her relationship she looks for someone else to hold on to and give her self esteem it is hard for her to ever really enjoy a healthy relationship because she self sabotages.

7—Women who are compassionate, humanitarian type, mercy oriented many live their lives hoping for the right companion to come along but often just live a single life or one with no children because they have a low tolerance for them, they may be artistic gifted people and they can be wonderful as long as they remain a free spirit if not they will feel trapped and it can turn to deep discontentment and depression.

8—Those who are born to be a wife and a mother starting from their baby dolls as a child they have cultivated the desire to nurture others they find contentment in serving their family they love and respect their husband’s and have no real desire to be seen for themselves as long as they know their husband loves them and the children honor them they have dignity, self worth and value far above material possessions.

9— The woman who loves God is a good mother works hard she desires to be loved for just who she is, life is hard for her, but she presses through she has went through some of if not all of the previous roles I mentioned, and has emerged to be a better person she is a pillar and a leader in waiting for the right situation and the right relationship.

10—The woman who hates men and believes that all men are the same they have been abused by men cheated on by men misunderstood and put down by men now they have become bitter and gender prejudice snake bitten in life, they will often become activist or seek ways to pay men back for what has happened to them.

Scott Stimson Sr.

Finding Someone Special

“Special”

“Surpassing what is common or usual; Exceptional:”

S—–Spiritually Compatible—-Fellowship and true intimacy is the craving of the soul, it comes from understanding and knowing that you are spiritually moving in the same direction.

P—–Physically Compatible—–You are not just spiritual beings there should be the physical attraction as well, and the desire to be presentable to the other.

E—–Educationally Compatible——Education many times determines our outlook on life if it will be a life of excellence or mediocrity.

C—–Communication and Caring—–Communication is more than just talking, it is coming to really know the other person, just as well as we know ourselves.

Communications is to learn how to speak the language of expressions, reasoning, feelings, culture and the principles of the other.

I——Identity——It is important that each person have their own identity this will keep us or them from becoming co-dependent, obsessive, or abusive.

A—–Affection—-1 : A moderate feeling or emotion 2 : tender attachment : passion, fondness: Affection— The breath of romance.

L——Love——-You need to really be in Love there needs to be the bonding and vulnerability that comes from being in Love this means serving, caring, respecting, believing in, and enjoying one another.

“When these come together it is called good chemistry and they can come together for married couples when the spouse becomes more than just the one they married they become that SPECIAL one.”

 Scott Stimson Sr

Friends In Low Places (MY Version Rewritten)

“WE HAVE MANY FRIENDS THAT REMAIN IN RELIGIOUS CONFUSION OR SPIRiTUAL BABYLON, THEY ARE IN LOW PLACES.  WE ALSO HAVE THOSE WHO HAVE ASCENDED INTO SPIRITUAL ZION “THE HEIGHTS OF TRUE WORSHIP AND LIBERTY”, THEY ARE IN HIGH PLACES. THIS REWRITE IS IN REFERENCE TO THE DESTRUCTION OF FALLEN BABYLON BY THOSE WHO WILL DARE GO INTO THE SYSTEM OF CONFUSION AND BRING TRUTH THAT LIBERATES MEN FROM DEAD WORKS OF RELIGION .”

FRIENDS IN LOW PLACES ( re-write )

                  G                          Dm

1. Blame it all on my roots, I showed up in truth,

           Am

    and ruined your religious affair.

            D                               D7

    The first one to know, the first one to show,

                    G

    I was the last one you thought you’d see there.

               G                                    Dm

2. And I saw the surprise and the fear and the lies

             Am                                     C

    when  I  took away all their shame.

    D

    I praised and, said babylon, “you are now through,

                                                    D7

    and the church shall forever reign.”

           G

‘Cause I got friends in low places,

where the spirit moves and the word chases

       Am                         D

their blues away, and they will be okay.

        G

And I’m not big on religious faces, think I’ll slip on down to the oasis,

      Am                    -D             G           G – Am – D – G

oh, I’ve got friends       in low places.

                 G                            Dm

3. Well I got a new song, I just don’t belong,

           Am

    but then, I’ve been here before.

                D                        D7

    Everything’s all right, I’ll just stay in the light,

                   G

    and I’ll show them all to the door.

           G                        Dm                                Am                              C

4. Hey I didn’t mean to stand up and sing, but she just has an hour and then

            D                                                                           D7

    She will be in hell and her smoke shall forever ascend.

Arise Song

(E)                                                    Am                                                  C

When I walked through the door the way i always did before, but this time

                       D

something changed…

E                                            C                                            Am

There was no one else around when I heard another sound saying:

Chorus

                                                                                                                                                                   G                      D             D7        G             C                                        D

              Arise… Go from this place  Arise   Take hold of this new day  Arise…

C                               G

 Go in the spirit of grace

Em                              A                        D7    G

 The heavens and the earth say arise…..

E                                                  Am         C                                           Dm7

I looked out through the window the wind was blowing hard,

G                  A                                D       Am                                            C                       Em

it had not rained for many days, then I heard the burst of thunder the storms

                                             A

clouds they made me wonder.

Repeat Chorus

E                                      Am                       C              A                   G

Now the day has all ended and the sun has descended there is darkness all

D                                  A                               D7

around but then i heard a different sound..

Repeat Chorus:

H.Scott Stimson  (c)  Aug 16th 2010

A Life Of Miracles Part 2

A man who had moved to a city for work and was fired unjustly shortly after getting there, On a Sunday eve. The word of the Lord came over him that it was still his job and God would restore it back to him, The next morning his boss who fired him died suddenly,and he got a call that morning to come back to work.

A man with stomach cancer in great pain was healed by the power of God all pain left and he was able to eat the same night.

A man who was suppose to have both knees replaced through surgery received a creative miracle and no longer needs it.

A man dressed as a medicine man came into our service one night while I was preaching he attempted to put a curse on me with all kinds of arm motions he came within a foot from me, but I ignored him as soon as I was done preaching the Lord healed a woman of Rheumatoid Arthritis on the front roll and then many others started getting healed all over the building he then became afraid and wanted the credit he said we were working together to heal the people.there is much more to this story.

A woman in her 60’s had an intestinal disease since she was 18 she could not travel in the car for very long at all, Her friend convinced her to come to our meeting 2 1/2 hrs away when she came she was healed. For over 45 years she had this condition she heard the simple truth the work has already been done 2000 years ago and you can receive now.

A woman testified that she was healed of hunchback in our service it was hereditary.

One night while preaching in I was caught up in the spirit and have no recollection of the message I was caught up in another realm I cannot explain but the people were blessed. Another night

A woman testified to being healed of a broken pelvic bone and walked accordingly.

A blind lady in her 70’s was led into service by a friend or family member she came expecting a miracle during ministry time the Lord opened her eyes and she described the whole platform and what was on the wall then walked out on her own.

 There was a man who had been in pain in his foot for 7 years his bones were fusing together, but he said all pain was gone while stomping his foot and walking also he couldn’t turn his neck, but he did after ministry.

A lady testified to being healed of diabetes her sugar level became normal and she no longer needed insulin.

I went to a meeting one night with no money I knew I had enough gas to get there not sure i had enough to get home, The church was asking for 200 dollars for the speaker I remember I had a 2 dollar bill in my billfold that my late father had given me the Lord said give it in the offering, It turned out to be 201 dollars mine made the difference.  Later on i was counting an offering given to me and there was a 2 dollar bill in it the Lord spoke to me and said i brought it back to you the same series and everything i framed it.

I once left home to go on a 1200 mile trip to New Jersey I had 11 dollars in my pocket and needed a miracle, but God said to go and He would provide when I returned home 10 days later I had 11,000 by His hand.

There has been numerous people healed of arthritis lupus, and auto immune disorders in our meetings some times people may be healed with no symptoms for a season, but if they don’t change their diet the same problem may return because it is food or liquid induced.

A 13 year old girl began hallucinating at a girl scout camp she was overcome with fear seeing visions of death and assumed another personality and a name with other supernatural events, One week later in the same tent where she and my niece slept there was 3 girls murdered unsolved to this day. My sister brought her to my house as she was a friend of my niece I told her I wanted to pray for her and she began to scream and another voice came out of her I addressed it by name and reminded it Jesus had defeated Satan I commanded it to come out In Jesus name and leave my home it did both, she gave her heart to Jesus that day and was filled with the Holy Spirit. very short version

A man who tried to commit suicide twice and died once and brought back he lived in a tent in the woods his hair was all matted together, and he was very bound someone went and got him and brought his to service and he had a powerful encounter with Jesus who totally delivered him, today he has had a stable job for many years married and his pastor told me he was the most faithful one in his church.

A woman whose son was in the military claimed to be an atheist and was now an alcoholic she had me to pray over a handkerchief and expect a miracle he was home on leave later she put it in his pillow case then gave testimony he gave his life to Jesus after she had done that, and he was delivered.

One night a man who claimed to be a Satanist priest came to our service, during the worship the presence of God was so strong that I could not stand under the power of God and laid in the floor, when I came to myself I saw the church worshiping and dancing the Satanist was worshiping Jesus with everyone else with his hands raised something happened to him.

A drug dealer called me one morning and said God had been talking to him and that he had a demon and God said I knew how to get it out, I told him you and your wife be in the service tomorrow and come up after I preach and I will pray for you when they came forward God saved and delivered them after a mild confrontation with the spirit in him.

A young girl who was legally blind with very thick glasses came forward received ministry showed no emotion walked back to her seat took her glasses off and began to cry as she could read her bible without her glasses.

My Supernatural Life In Ministry

Acts 1:1 The first account I composed, Theophilus, about all that Jesus began to do and teach, until the day when He was taken up to heaven, after He had by the Holy Spirit given orders to the apostles whom He had chosen.

A lady who was run over by a car by her ex husband was left in a wheel chair for 3 years she in pain rode in the back seat to come to our meeting 4 hours away, while ministering I saw a vision of her touching a sheet over her head, and she was healed I instructed the ushers to place my coat over her head she reached and touched it the power of God went through her we ran around the building together she walked up a flight of stairs healed and she has been in meetings since then.

A woman visited a witch to cast a spell on her boyfriend’s mother while there an evil spirit went into her she came through the prayer line later and before she got to me she was thrown to the floor by that spirit then Jesus set her free, we went and ate with the family as they celebrated her new freedom. 🙂

I once watched a man bring his offering forward when he placed it on the platform his blind eye opened, it went blind when he was a child through an accident. Praise God Jesus the healer

A demonized man came walking in the back of a church yelling and screaming, I was in the middle of an important message to the preachers who was there then the voice of the Lord came out of me and I spoke to him shut your mouth now and don’t say a word till i’m finished he fell to the floor and was silent until I was done then hecontinued where he left off.

I was once attacked while ministering by a man who wanted to kill me in his own words, He didn’t remember it happening all he could recall was he couldn’t take his eyes off of me and then a light came out of the sky and went through him. For 24 years he lived in fear slept with his light on and would walk around his trailer with his gun before sleep, but that night and afterwards he could sleep in peace.

I have seen numerous people instantly healed of knee feet and back problems verifiable a year later some needed knee replacement but a creative miracle fixed it. To God be all the glory.

A young man who burned out his mind on drugs was unable to carry on a conversation would sit in the floor during ministry and was unreachable he was totally healed after a prophetic word to his dad he called me pastor the same day and played drums like a professional.

A man who was totally blind was instantly healed then gave his heart to Jesus, He came to the same place everyday for a year he had been praying for God to send somebody by to pray for him when we spoke to his eyes to see he was healed he got so excited as he begin to cry out I can see this and I can see that.

I know of at least 4 people who have given testimony of being healed of Hepatitis-C in different locations all verified through testing.

A man was healed instantly of Hepatitis-C after the Lord revealed he had a blood condition then after 2 test the blood count went from many millions to 0.

I ministered on planting a garden (giving out of what we have into our world) while preaching I put money in the garden which was a square spot on the floor others also joined in, the next morning when I came back to the building God’s presence was manifested in this one spot that I had called a garden that whoever stepped into the garden was overcome by His Glory.

I called a man out to minister to him and in the course of the prophesy I put 40 dollars in his hands then he gave testimony he had lost his job his wife just had a baby and he had 3 dollars for milk. God spoke to him to give it in the offering and trust him he did it and the Lord gave him 40.00 that night and also the Lord gave him a job that week.

A woman who was mute “unable to speak” came for prayer the Lord said to me you will have to cast it out I commanded it to come out in Jesus name she hit the floor and within 5 minutes she was speaking normal.

A woman who was dying of cancer had just left the hospital and they brought her straight to our meeting, In that service the Lord healed her all pain left and the cancer went with it.

A young woman in her late 20’s had been diagnosed with cancer it was confirmed and she was suppose to start treatments, but Jesus healed her she never needed it because the cancer was gone.

I was taken in a vision to Africa i walked down a dirt road with someone who I didn’t know we walked into a little house I saw a young man I had never seen before and I ministered to him prophetically then the vision ended i was on my face praying, and the Lord spoke to me and said you will be going to Africa.. 3 weeks later I received a letter in the mail from Northern Nigeria with a picture paper clipped it was the man I had seen in the vision the letter was saying God said your heart had been prepared to come to Africa 9 months later myself and 3 others went to the Islamic zoned area in the North we found out they had been killing all missionaries that came there we did get harrassed, but God protected us we were there for 16 days, They said during one 6 night crusade and we have no way to verify it that 4500 gave their heart to Jesus 2800 testified to being healed by the power of God we were able to buy land and pay for a building to hold 2000 people . this is a very short version

A man came up for prayer he was blind in one eye he went back to his seat unchanged,but that night while laying in bed he said it was like someone put drops in that eye and it opened he could see his wife who was a Muslim she gave her heart to Jesus.

One day while praying the Lord spoke to me go to a pawn shop I didn’t know what for I walked in and out and went and sit in my car not knowing what to do I watched a young lady go in then back out, The Spirit said run to her and give her this message God wants you to know He is the one who meets your need and you do not have to fear and then i put money in her hands she began to weep. He knows what your going through you can trust Him.

One of my greatest joys in ministry has been giving money away during the prophetic flow seeing exact needs met to the penny some times by revelation or prophetically putting it on the floor and not knowing what or who God would use it for.

One night while preaching in I was caught up in the spirit and have no recollection of the message I was caught up in another realm I cannot explain, but the people were blessed. Another night I was concerned no one was listening to me then afterwards the pastor told me while I was preaching I was covered in gold I had no idea, but they all saw it afterwards i drove stopped at a hotel randomly and when I got to my room the clerk called me and said he did not want to take my money it was on them.

A woman who had a stroke was paralysed on one side she had to be helped into church but after ministry she danced all over the church came back the next night testifying to the power of God.

A woman who was convinced God did not love her and had a severe back condition and was waiting surgery she allowed me to lay hands on her in faith only because she loved and respected me immediately she was healed never needed surgery and then she knew He did love her after all.

A man had to be carried into service because of a stroke The next morning he came back to service walking with no need of assistance.

Where Do You Believe The Church Is On A Prophetic Timetable In The Earth?

#25–Where do you believe the church is on a prophetic timetable in the earth? and will we become stronger brighter in 2013 having a clear kingdom vision or will we be more divided in doctrine and self interest? will we put our beliefs before loving people or will we just praise ourselves and our accomplishments or will we really see the temple of God open and the ark of the Covenant revealed for all men to see?

Answers

David R Huskins Because I believe “the church” is HIS I have to assume she is right where she needs to be prophetically and otherwise because she is HIS responsibility however, many of us in the church have to adapt and become willing to be changed. As individuals we have to be willing to lose some “personal dogmas” and “agendas” to find HIS agenda for the WE instead of the ME but I trust HE is the one presenting her to HIMSELF so HE will assure everything that pertains to her will be handled right on HIS time frame. I pray however that I will become more loving of others and aware of their accompolishments and less aware of my own doctrines and interests. I certainly want to be a tool for unity and not division. As we see HIM we will be changed into HIS image…help us look not at each other but over each other to HIM. Thank you for allowing my two cents on each of your questions. I don’t profess to have answers as much as ponderings and more questions but I have tried to use the questions for an honest introspection. Again thanks for hearing me out.

Stephen Polansky Sensing a great shift in the framework of mentality and how we perceive things in the church. Many comments here and your other posts are confirming this sense to me anyway. Bishop identified the church as “she.” That’s a huge shift from traditional thinking and administration. I’m certainly not there yet, but the women WERE the first ones to the empty tomb and saw the Gardner. The men? Well…Judas hung himself, the rest scattered, Peter had to be restored with breakfast on the beach and Thomas, being from Missouri, had to be shown. It’s just hard for men to imagine the female role of bride and well…wife. Just being honest.

Gregg Wilson There is no time table. We live in the New Day, and to that day is no end. We have been already putting our beliefs, before what actually IS. We look for a physical appearance in what will come without observation. We continue to seek without….what truly is within. We fear, above ALL, being real. There is just too much responsibility in it……………or is there? What timetable….we struggle with milk.

Bill Benninghoff Jesus must reign from heaven until every enemy has been put under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. (1 Cor 15). The head (Jesus) is in heaven and the feet are part of His body here on earth. After death is no more, then comes the end where Jesus will deliver up the Kingdom to His Father and God will be all and in all. So until we see no more death on the earth, the church still has a job to do here on earth and the coming of the Lord is still a long way off. The church must increase in our maturity and in our unity and in our operational authority over sickness, demons and death.

  • Donna Barnes Stimson love God, build up and love people in Christ as a finished product as HE sees us…..receiving new vision “as He sees us ” we must must adjust…and let Him be…in us…..

  • Gregg Wilson Mankind seem to be continually trying to understand(receive) what is already given. He has put all of Himself into us, to the point we are all around Him, yet the futility of works towards getting around Him will not stop until the wine is consumed, which is understanding. We have been so conditioned to our false being of awfulness that we think it robbery to consider ourselves with God, Who calls us sons.

  • Shannon Galon Really looking forward to more of your input on this one. Maybe when you put it on your other website? I think six months ago I may have had something to say, but since then my applecart has been completely overturned (thanks for that btw! JK ) I’m seriously begging the Lord for clarity on alot of things in this area, and it will come I know, but I’m not very patient

    • Kenneth Meadors Both!

      Kenneth Meadors Is that the right answer? Unfortunately, it is. I see light getting brighter and dark darker, but they can’t be in the same room, can they?

    • Karen Mc Intosh-Bargiel No, no….I have already seen us getting brighter and strong and the dark getting dimer and GONE!!!!!!!!!

    • Todd Weber division, seperation, and darkness for world and religion and yet a united bride shining and ready with oil in lamps for a bridegroom holy pure and spotless

What About All Of The Sick People In The Church?

#23 — Within the church we have a lot of sick people yet we teach and practice healing, we have many crying out who are addicted to prescription medicines, many who keep waiting for healing but still not receiving.. How do we get the church into a place of receiving healing emotionally and physically? is there keys to unlock this ministry in the church and of course to take his power every where.

 

Answers

David R Huskins I have witnessed so many factors that hinder us from sometimes receiving but I have also witnessed such an increase in the number of healing’s that are manifested. I do think medicine is killing many of us. One thing I think about is when Adam believed a lie it took hundreds of years for him to actually die so it may take us some time to actually manifest the truth once it is believed. We are undoing the lie. And for me God is dealing with me a lot about the fact that it is not so much praying for the healing or miracle as it is realizing the healing and miracle that is already there and getting it to manifest. One thing is sure condemnation is a huge reason many are not healed … we must undo the idea that it depends on us.

Jackie Hyatt Lacy Amen David! I agree, condemnation and shame which is rooted in sin conscientiousness is the root/belief/lie that keeps many from believing & receiving healing. It is only the preaching of the gospel, the truth of the finished work that destroys the lie. We are seeing more miracles manifest in, through & among us as a result! Signs/manifestation follows those who believe.

Ronald Smith I believe one of the keys to wholeness is for the church to understand emotions and how they can effect us physically, and how Jesus heals the broken heart, or soul by His grace and truth. I have seen physical healing come on the wings of emotional healing. Another key is for the church to suspend all judgement toward those who have addictions and other problems and create an atmosphere of love to release healing, and to remember that condemnation is a faith killer. We must help them see Christ and who they really are and have in Him.

Gregg Wilson We are doing well with the bread(knowledge) the wine(understanding) is where light is needed.

Stephen Polansky Not to be condemning or judgemental, and in no way is that intended here, as I think it comes down to a matter of trust…individually. When the Lord reveals something to us and we receive it immeadiately (like a child) then we start to question, analyze and rip it apart for our “own” understanding. Often done with the intent to be shared corporately. Then that revelation is something less from what the Lord intended and is not of Him at that point. WE either grow in the light of that revelation or depart and go in the light of our interpretation of that revelation. ie John 6:66…please don’t make more of that # other than the scripture reference intended. See how freaky it can get?…in our minds.

Jim Taylor We see miracles here a lot. And yet there are those who do not get healed. I can’t explain it and I don’t understand it .. but we don’t let it stop us.

Marilyn Woods · Friends with Rita Smith and 13 others

Yes it is a matter of trust!!! We do not always get what we want- we get what God sees best for our situation!!! That has been my life story! I hAVE SEEN FAITH MOVE MOUNTAINS (ESPECIALLY IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES) AND i HAVE SEEN MEN WITH MUCH FAITH WHOM WANTED TO LIVE DIE! We have to trust in either situation!

Crickett Green After seeing many people healed from every kind of sickness, disease or malady in 3rd world countries, I often wonder why we do not see this movement of the spirit here in the USA. I believe people are hindering the spirit.

Marco MC Marully Situngkir When we start to make changes in our life that contribute to our spiritual and emotional well-being, our body will change,,, I am sure that change is not about healing emotionally alone, but it also physically and spiritually.

  • James B Gass God is interested in our whole spirit soul and body 1rst Thess 5:23

  • John Nyamu For one to receive healing power there be total faith

  • Prayerlessnes weakens our communion with God, Christians would rather pay u n pray 4 them than them pray. Healing is found in the maker.

  • Luke Tabu Toney 

    creating an atmosphere of miracles is important, our body is the temple of the Holy spirit, bt we’ve never made it gd enough for His Habitation, hence miracles becomes a nightmare.

  • Luke Tabu Toney · 

    God already did it for us, by His stripes we were healed, He sent forth His word to Heal, what have we done in return?

  • Marilee Osborn Only believe which means to count as true what God says and you shall receive what you ask for whether it is healing, finances, relationships, etc. Jesus couldn’t heal unless they believed! We have what we say, life and death is in the power of the tongue, We need to train our mouths to line up with the word of God.

  • Effie Rose Ben hey that was what i was jus telling my sister inlaw Praise the Lord yes they should be healed!we are the body whom the Holy Spirit resides the power to heal has been paid for time to step out and do something about it !! amen!

What About Responsibility And Transparency In Leadership

#22 From several questions it appears that many people within the congregation are saying if our leader would just admit when they are wrong and take responsibility when they miss it we would be more willing to follow, so I think we are at a place where people are saying we want more transparency from our leadership and we won’t stone them as we have in the past. How do we become more transparent without it hindering our God given mandate?

 

Answers

 

  • David R Huskins for me transparency is only created in an atmosphere of acceptance and that should be available to the congregation and the leaders. I think what hinders our God given mandate is perhaps not so much the lack of transparency but in my life I have seen the hindrance to be more from the idea that there is a different standard for those in the following role than there is for those in the leading role. I think both in the pulpit and the pew it behooves us to remember we have this treasure in “earthen vessels” that the excellency all be of God and not of us no matter our role. I strive for daily honesty and transparency and when I am not it is not a lack of desire sometimes it is a lack of knowing myself at that moment what I have done wrong or not having processed it.

  • David R Huskins upon processing a wrong I try to always be quick to publicly and privately admit it but not so “people will follow more willingly” because that can be a control factor from the congregation. Control is wrong if done from the pulpit to the people or from the people to the pulpit. Mutual love and submission is the way of the New Covenant not control. I think however there is another underlying problem here and that is our infatutation with peoples behavior pulpit and pew…more transparency may or may not be the solution in all cases. I think we really need to consider the fact that God is able to deal with HIS own when they are wrong no matter who they are and allow for HIS adjustments in private before we demand public transparency. As we are all a work in progress so grace to fail is as important as grace to save in my opinion.

  • Gregg Wilson Well said David. The most noticed wrong is the ones we ALL do and habitually repeat. God being separate from man. Any such thought, speech or teaching. Even in the phrase “New Covenant” This covenant does not require anything from us. It’s description is Diatheke…….covenant of ONE. Difficulties are in the misunderstandings. Even our deeds are transparent, thank you Father.

  • Clara Shope Respect of persons is a big one.

  • Gregg Wilson How do we become more transparent without it hindering our God given mandate? “reevaluate the mandate, the greatest of this is it’s foundation, Love”. Many are totally poured out for all who they touch. This is how transparency is rightly discerned. I have been privileged to be in such company, including many, of you. Let us not differentiate among the days, because ‘the end of days” has said, it is finished. peace

  • Shannon Galon For years I searched for healing, and help. I was told many times, “we don’t know how to deal with this, go here, maybe they can help”. I stopped searching and stayed still long enough to heal when I found a church where I was finally told, “We don’t have all the answers, but we’ll go to the Lord and figure it out together. I learned from them, grew to love them as family, and I think they learned from me too. That’s the body, working together, growing together, learning from eachother, and loving above and beyond human capability. I don’t think we need to all be so transparent that we’re airing our dirty laundry to everyone who will listen, but be real, not placing ourselves above, and be willing to say, “I don’t know, let’s ask Him together.” To me it was a lifesaving gift.

  • Jimmy Huggins Also remembering it ain’t about us(pulpit or pew). From either side it ain’t about either all about him. I think it’s easy for eitherppit or pew to forget who Christ is in them

  • Jackie Hyatt Lacy Authenticity in relationship regardless of gifts & callings is necessary for true relationships to develop. Ministry leaders need genuine relationships as much as anyone.
    I was taught you can not be transparent with those in your church or they won’t respect your leadership. This is a lie and has made many churches relationships superficial at best. This lie destroys the possibility of real fellowship. It is only 
    true if the leader is projecting a false image and not openly revealing their heart. I have been “warned” by a few that transparency is dangerous and eventually I will get hurt. Well, I have lived a guarded ministry life and i got hurt and disappointed anyway. I will err on the side of grace, truth, openness and transparencyI i may get hurt but love is risky. Love also never fails! i want to pastor a church where everyone from the pulpit to the pew is celebrated not tolerated. ❤

  • Tony Pannell Transparent without it hindering our God given mandate?. I think there is a misunderstanding sometimes about ministry or people with gifts. God didn’t choose people who were perfect to minister to the body. The book of Judges is a good example. When you look at the list of people God chose to lead his people, they were people with problems and afflictions like everyone else. Study the chosen in Judges. One was a man with a withered hand. Another was a son of a harlot (a bastard to the Israelites). Everyone knows Samson’s downfall! Many others. Even a woman was chosen in a culture where women weren’t allowed to speak in public. In our society and in the church we have had a hard time separating what we do from who we are. We attach problems, addictions, ect to the person, rather than looking at the person God created and separating their actions from the individual. We failed to realize, God called people who were no different than anyone else in the church. They just happen to have been given a gift, that maybe others don’t possess. When the leadership realizes they are no different than anyone they are leading and the people that are being lead realize that the leaders are no different than them, maybe then we can all be more transparent with one another. Leaders will stop looking at themselves as above the people and realize they were called to serve and the people will quit putting them on a pedestal as objects of worship ( not all but some do).

  • Bert White First I think that learning to love as God loves us is an immense challenge to begin with and in a nation that applauds vilifying our leaders when they stumble or sin, it is quite apparent that we like the world distance ourselves from our leaders when they fall (self-righteously so I might add). Our leaders must be given permission to take off the mask that we helped create. When shame, blame, denial and the likes are fueled by a religious system, invariably it is human nature to avoid transparency. 
    If ever we need grace … we need to learn how to extend it to our leaders. This is a truth that I learned through great personal suffering (at the expense of my own family I might add). I don’t think that creating a soft place to fall just happens, it must be cultivated. For ages we have lived under the domination of performance so it is quite understandable that leaders are tempted to dawn the mask of ‘I am fine, we are fine, God is good all the time’ when things really are not. As Brenning Manning says “We create an image where everyone admires us and no one truly knows us.” Years ago I learned five simple aspects of grace that I have experienced in my life and I feel that are essential ingredients in creating a transparent atmosphere. 
    1. Humility attracts grace – Just be honest – (use wisdom when you do)
    2. Grace changes our life focus – Refocus the attention upon Jesus
    3. Grace lets God handle our sins and failures – Stop trying to please God and just exemplify trusting Him
    4. Grace like nothing else melts our masks – The Truth of Who I am is greater than what you see
    5. Grace changes how we treat others – Learn to extravagantly forgive
    I think that it is the responsibility of leadership to cultivate the atmosphere of grace among those who they lead. If we as leaders learn to take off the mask and help others not wear the mask, I think that it would produce a greater aspect of trust and accountability based on mutual love and respect.

What About The Present Ecclesiastical Order Compared To The Early Church?

#21 How come we don’t see the present ecclesiastical order in the early church that we see today such as pews pulpits steeples the cross etc.etc. or do we? How come we don’t see the titles given to the early ministry of the church or do we like Evangelist, Apostle, Bishop, Prophet ? Where did liturgical clothing come from and is it necessary for today or is it just a matter of preference? is this just an issue to distract or is it important?

 

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  • David R Huskins In my opinion we see the titles in the Bible but not the “order” because it was never so much to be an order as it was a job description or function. I believe the function got twisted not the title itself. As for pews, pulpits, and steeples…etc I think they became symbols and when appreciated have value to those who respect it but are not required not necessary but certainly should be celebrated if one so chooses as symbols such as a serpent on a pole was in the Old Covenant or the temple was in the Old/New.

  • David R Huskins As pertaining to clothing liturgical or otherwise I don’t think it makes the person the person makes it. If one is clothed with humility and righteousness then a t shirt or a robe will be equally liturgical. To the person who is given or bestowed with an attire by another then it is important or has value to them but when the attire is overemphasized then it loses value, honor, and relevance. I don’t think we should be distracted by attire and clothing liturgical or otherwise. I have seen God move with people with t shirt and jeans and yes with people with robes and collars…God favors neither above the other nor does HE abhor one above the other in my opinion. Tie, t shirt, robe, collar, dress, or some other outfit be clothed in HIM above all else is my prayer and then no one should notice anything other than HIM.

    Dennis Anderson The early Churches teaching and preaching was on a dialog level and today’s Church is more monolog, they went from house to house sharing meals together just to name a few differences. They really didn’t focus on there titles, that was simply there gifting’s and callings to the Body of Christ. Today we get all caught up on things like numbers, titles, styles of teaching, preaching, new methods and ways for Church growth, and programs, more ways to keep them, and entertainment. Much different than the early Church!

    Bill Benninghoff We are all equal as brothers and sisters in Christ. We are all standing in the grace of God. (Romans 5:1) We have different functions in the body of Christ according to the different gifts given to us, but we are all beloved by the Father and we are equal in value and importance to God and to one another. Jesus alone is the Head of the Body. We each need to follow his directions. Each gift is vital to the building up of the body. There are no offices, only functions. The function of preaching and teaching is no more vital than the function of helps or of hospitality. It is only as all the gifts function together that the Body of Christ will come into true maturity. In most churches only a small number of people know what their gift is, much less are functioning in it. This problem lies with those gifted to function as leaders and equippers in the Body. Leaders are to help people find their gift and make room for them to function in their gift

    David R Huskins liturgy by definition is a prescribed order or way of conducting service and was first used by Greeks to describe how public servants should carry out their duties…it just means script or something to see as we carry out our duties. it became a term used to describe churches that use visual symbols as vital to their worship.

    • Todd Weber i don’t see liturgy used in the word of God…to me it is Catholic and or Pagan

      Gregg Wilson Hahahaha Catholicism…………

      • No it is not necessary, Yes it is a distraction. Everyone running round trying to find their gift or capacity, none seeming to be taught……as He is so are we. There simply are not different levels of men or spirit. We need not only know what…..we believe, but Why. Much of the why is handed down tradition and wrong……still is. This shows even in our speech. Now all my loving family….don’t none y’all get angry with me. We are surnamed Christ. That is about it. We are all He is, says Him. We each have all giftings and apt to operate in several capacities, apostle, prophet, teacher, etc.
        We don’t pull a prophet out the box when needed, nor do any conjuring. We should be on Monday, just like Sunday. If we ain’t, when is Christ seen?

      • Todd Weber isnt’t liturgy a catholic term?

       

    • Krista France Frank Viola answers this (and almost all your other questions posted) in his writings. Pagan Christianity, Reimagining Church, Finding Organic Church, From Eternity to Here, etc., etc., etc.